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Post by michelb on Feb 5, 2022 21:26:06 GMT
Just drag and drop the PHOTO CORRAL folder to the OUR PHOTOS in the left folders panel in tree mode.
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Post by michelb on Feb 3, 2022 14:09:08 GMT
For your first deleting issue, two or three tips: - Don't delete each file immediately, find a way to mark that file as 'to be deleted' and batch delete those files later on. - In your browsing search for culling, insure that you are pre-selecting files with a narrower interval than years, for instance by month. - consider using alternative browsing solutions for culling, especially the 'full screen view, shortcut F11' or even external solutions like Faststone, necessarily followed by a search for missing files later in the organizer.
I have found that it may be faster to use the show/hide function rather than assigning a 'to be deleted' keyword. You start without any hidden files and you hide or show each file. After your session, it's easy to review the resuling selection and to batch delete it. The F11 full view lets you browse easily provided you start with a reasonable size selection. The external culling via a browsing external software like Faststone is quite possible: once you reopen the organizer, you select the missing files and batch delete them all. Be sure not to have any missing files before culling!
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Post by michelb on Jan 30, 2022 8:04:55 GMT
I just live with these humongous menus. When the Organizer's menus started looking larger (in an earlier Elements version), I wished the same would happen to the menus in the Editor. I should have heeded the saying -- "Be careful what you wish for". My wish came true but . . . now some of the Editor's menus take over the whole length of the workspace. C'est la vie!
Yes, Sepiana, indeed "c'est la vie !" Both the editor and the organizer were born 20 years ago separately and developped on different software components. That's a very looong... history.
Half way, a big change happened which made the user interface obsolete (mainly in Windows). It was the advent of high res displays. I should say another change happened at the same time: the trend to migrate from desktops to laptops. It took about 4 to 5 years for Microsoft and Adobe to find a workaround: the 200% vs 100% display arrangement (PSE13 ?). That applied to the editor, not to the organizer which was coded on other resources. In PSE11 a new organizer interface was introduced with other drastic changes. The organizer could recognize the new text settings in Windows. No problem to set text to 125, 150%. Those settings did not apply to the editor, where a 150% setting woud have been necessary.
So, apart from some recent Windows options to use 'legacy' UI settings, no real change in UI happened until PSE2022. This was made to offer an answer to the growing part of the PSE users with laptops with high res and small displays. And indeed, that change was easier to implement and helped a lot the targeted market. Those drop-down menus are crucial for text reading. The fixed ones are not. Drawback: a few drop-down menus don't show entirely without scrolling. Other drawback: you don't imagine how many PSE users are still working on low res displays with a vertical res of less or just the 800 pixels system requirement. Even with 800 pixels, there are incompatibilities with Windows options like auto hiding the task bar. You can't please everybody.
The hard and sad reality is that you can't have the same UI layout for everybody. It's obvious that phone apps derived from desktop UI are different, and there should be the same difference for laptop users of modern high res small displays and those of old low res laptops. What is critical is the number of horizontal menu options and the number of tools in the vertical bar. Even forgetting that a total rewriting of the editor on a modern flexible UI platform is not a realistic hope, changing that layout with more menu levels would be relatively easy, but you don't imagine the very strong resistance to any interface change or menus layout.
Just last week, a user did bitterly complain that the addition of new automatic features in the Ehanced dropdown menu (moving photos, overlays...) destroyed his usual workflow to select routinely the 'Unsharp masks' he applies to all his pictures selecting the option in the bottom.
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Post by michelb on Jan 22, 2022 17:26:59 GMT
What I am missing in the Organizer is the ability to choose to open jpeg files directly in ACR, like in Bridge or with the old program 'OpenInAcr' by John R Ellis. Yes, I know that once a file has been opened once in ACR, that choice will be remembered and the file will open automatically in ACR afterward.
That's why when I import jpegs, I often batch open a lot of jpegs, apply 'Auto' and click 'Done'.
The problem when I want to open a random jpeg in my catalog in ACR is that I have to find the path of that file to open it in the editor.
I am just testing the following solution: - I have a direct shortcut on my desktop for the PSE editor and one for Bridge. - When in the organizer, I have a jpeg to open, I drag and drop it on the Bridge shortcut on the desktop.
It appears highlighted in its folder in Bridge. I use the 'Open in Camera raw' option and I am in the full ACR version (I have a CC subscription). I use the 'Auto' option or any edit I want and validate my edits. Now, I drag and drop the thumbnail to the editor shortcut icon on the desktop and there I am in the reduced ACR version of PSE. (By the way, that limited version does not use the GPU for the crop tool, which makes it slow and jerky.)
I did not imagine before that you could have a good collaboration between the organizer and Bridge with both open at the same time.
Side note: I should also mention the very useful ACR scripts in Elements+.
Edit: In the Bridge preferences you can associate a number of file extensions like jpeg or raw formats to the PSE editor. If you don't have a subscription allowing you to use the full ACR version, raw formats will open in the ACR editor of PSE.
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Post by michelb on Jan 19, 2022 8:35:59 GMT
Two different and independent actions:
- moving the catalog and media files to the destination external drive via backup and restore - Installing PSE2022 on the desktop
You can start with any of them.
What about the catalog conversion?
If you first install PSE2022 on your desktop, at the end of the installation, you get a prompt to convert your current catalog and you are ready to work with the converted catalog from the desktop. Then you transfer (backup and restore) your updated catalog and media files to the destination external drive:
Details of the transfer: Use PSE2022 on the desktop to create a full backup folder on the external drive 'X'. Plug in both the 'X' backup drive and the destination external drive to the laptop Use PSE2022 in the laptop to 'restore' both the catalog and the media files from 'X' to the destination external drive.
The catalog is already converted and useable from either the desktop or laptop as soon as the destination external drive is plugged in.
If you start directly with the transfer from the desktop, the 'moved' catalog is not yet converted. The PSE2022 organizer still uses its empty catalog created when you installed PSE2022 on the laptop. So you have to use the 'convert' option of the catalog manager to convert the moved PSE2021 catalog folder to the new format. That converted catalog is then available to either the laptop or the desktop.
Tips: - In the restore step, you'll be asked to specify the external drive destination: don't restore on the root drive, create your own 'master' folder ('My Images' for instance) just under the root drive.
- if you miss the prompt to convert, you can start the conversion manually - In the organizer, the new catalog is shown under 'custom' location; you may have to navigate to the external drive to display it in the catalog list.
- In Windows, don't forget to check if the destination USB drive has the same drive letter. Better use Windows to assign a letter at the end of the alphabet to be protected against a letter changed by Windows itself. You won't be bothered by the installation of another device 'stealing' the letter...
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Post by michelb on Jan 16, 2022 8:03:28 GMT
This is indeed a frequent use situation to share your photo library with the catalog on an external drive, and that's what I am doing myself. The only difference with your proposal is that you simply install the same PSE version on the two computers. You are allowed two 'activations', which means two physical computers authorized to use the PSE license; you don't need to buy a second license. The activation process (registering to the license servers) is managed from the menu 'Help >> Sign 'in process.
You simply install PSE twice with your license number. If you want to change one of the computers with a third one, you'll have to 'sign out' of the replaced computer same (menu Help) and sign in (enter the license key) from the same menu in the new computer. Anyway, you can't install the program itself on an external drive.
Once you have installed PSE twice, do a full backup and restore of your photo files library and catalog. Ideally, use a different external drive for the backup folder, but that would work with the same destination external drive provided you have twice the necessary backup space available.
Edit: Go to the Photoshop Elements Organizer 'resources' in this forum and scroll down to
Move Elements Organizer catalog.
As a result, you get a working copy (it's not reall a 'move', the original catalog folder and photos are still there and working) of your catalog and photos accessible to each computer immediately. The catalog folder is also restored on the same external drive. Just take care in Windows to assign the same drive letter to the external drive for both computers.
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Post by michelb on Jan 12, 2022 8:40:49 GMT
My monitor is now set to 1920x1080 and the UI to Automatic. Changing the Scale of the display in windows (normally set to 125%) does not affect the size of the text within PE. It does affect the size of the text most other places! HappyScot, Thanks for answering my question! It's a pity it had no effect on the text size within PSE 2022. Now I'm curious why I ended up with this HUGE text size in PSE 2022 menus as shown in my screenshot. There has been no detailed explanation from Adobe about the change in font size for the drop-down menus in the editor 2022 apart from a couple of answers by Adobe Staff in the Adobe Elements forum. They said they had 'solved' the problem of tiny text in the new version. Indeed, the font size is bigger and in my situation with desktops in 1920 x1080 and about 20" that's better for my old eyes. Sometime I have to think to scroll down completely to see the bottom options. For a laptop with same resolution in 15" the text is too small for my old eyes and the acceptable solution for me is to use Windows to set the display (not only the text) to a lower resolution.
The organizer interface has been totally changed with PSE11 and it can follow the Windows text settings contrary to the editor.
That's already nearly 10 years ago that hi res (4k) monitor were offered. The way the editor interface (the text and icons) is displayed on Windows could not be scaled. If I remember well, it's from PSE13 that a workaround to use 100 or 200% scale factor was introduced to accomodate the new monitors. Contrary to what some think, switching to a flexible interface like in modern softwares is practically impossible without re-writing everything in the interface. That would drastically change the menus (number of horizontal/vertical items - introducing new menu levels etc.) Such menu changes would bring a huge flow of protests.
The problem today is that the trend towards more hi res and shorter displays (laptops, tablets, phones - while a huge number of current users of Elements still use vertical resolutions under the minimum required 800 pixels) would require a different interface; something like a 'phone' interface version, a 'laptop' or a 'tablet' one as well as a 'legacy' one for old laptops.
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Post by michelb on Jan 9, 2022 19:15:57 GMT
I am not sure the workaround works for PSE 2018, it can't work with PSE10. From memory, only the three last versions of PSE can be updated like this. The update doc was published in november 2019. Most common errors in following the steps have been to specify wrong folder pahts (needs particular attention) and not deleting or moving the old .8bi file. Don't only rename. Also, don't forget the old solution of using the DNGconverter.
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Post by michelb on Jan 9, 2022 16:26:02 GMT
Thanks Sepiana, Pity, but I guess Adobe want you to update the elements version. Did you read my post about the workaround to update your recent pse ACR versions to 14.1 ?
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Post by michelb on Jan 9, 2022 16:24:25 GMT
Popcorn, I am not an expert in colour management. My understanding is that if you bring in a raw image to PSE with the PSE colour settings set to Adobe RGB then it will be saved in Adobe RGB. If somehow the psd file is now sRGB then there is not much benefit changing it back to Adobe RGB because the colour information is already lost. You would have to start from the beginning. Of course I could be wrong but this is my understanding. I suppose that the same would apply if you were importing a jpg shot in sRGB into PS Elements that was set to Adobe RGB; I don't think you would gain anything. A jpg file shot in Adobe RGB or an Edited RAW file would benefit from Adobe RGB. Having said that, most monitors cannot differentiate the full gamut of Adobe RGB anyway. You will probably still get a good print in sRGB. I would be interested to hear from others who can shed some light. Colour management can be complicated. Kind regards Chris More information here: www.photokaboom.com/photography/learn/Photoshop_Elements/color_management/8_color_management_Photoshop_Elements_color_spaces.htmwww.color-management-guide.com/color-management-photoshop-elements.htmlChris, You are absolutely right.
My old monitor died recently and the current replacement no longer shows the difference between color modes... I had better results in printing with a 6-inks HP printer for which I can no longer get cartridges... I remember I did publish a tutorial to display the out of gamut colors in an image going from aRGB to sRGB... I'll see if my old memory is better to find it than my printer and monitor!
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Post by michelb on Jan 9, 2022 9:39:36 GMT
My wife has the DSC-H50 which does not offer raw format.
None of the DSC Sony cameras are mentioned in the Adobe list of cameras with support for ACR format:
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Post by michelb on Jan 9, 2022 9:05:00 GMT
Technically, there is no feature in the organizer to 'merge' different catalogs contrary to what you can do in Lightroom. Here is an old and still valid link to the faqs by John R Ellis:
So, have a look at what is suggested by John R Ellis and also by Buckskin.
My personal workflow would be:
To write all metadata to files in each catalog before the backup
To be sure to keep the more recent backup folder for each catalog for safety. Then I would look for the most important catalog to which I want to add the smaller ones I'd locate the catalog folder (menu Help >> system info of the organizer) I would copy it with a new name to start with to keep the original unchanged.
Now, the idea is to 'import' the files referenced in the other catalogs in that new catalog. The tags, ratings and captions would be recovered but not albums, stacks or version sets. The problem is that your catalogs may overlap: some files being already in several catalogs. Importing should skip duplicates. The other problem is if the files in the catalogs to be imported are not in a separate folder tree that you can select for import. In which case, the simple but slow solution would be to use that catalog and do the classical backup and restore to a temporary drive/folder from which you could import selectively.
As a result, you would have a single new catalog referencing all the files in the original catalogs, with all their tags, captions and more, but without albums, version sets etc (grouping info). Nothing will have been changed in the files themselves apart from 'writing' metadata to tags. You'll be able to backup and restore everything in a new drive, partition or master folder without changing anything to your original situation.
The link by John R Ellis gives tips to recover more from albums and keyword hierarchies, but the general idea is the same.
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Post by michelb on Jan 3, 2022 8:19:59 GMT
Actually, when I think about this, one could use Synchredible to make a duplicate of their Organizer Catalog(s) Drive(s); and, should something go haywire, simply change the drive letter of the backup and the Organizer never know the difference, right ? Since catalogs can be stored, copied or moved nearly anywhere, the simplest solution is to make a simple catalog copy. Changing the drive letter: That's the trap. In Windows, drive letters are assigned depending on the first available letter after the current devices are plugged in. Except if you assign a letter in the bottom list of the alphabet, like X, Y, Z... So Adobe programmed the catalog to also store the internal serial number of the drive to find photos even if the letter drive has changed in between. You get that internal number with the DOS command 'vol x:' So, if you change the drive letter, that's not enough, the organizer recognizes if the drive has been changed. Note that with 'cloned' drives, the serial numbere is also cloned and I suspect that is what you are describing with synchredible. The solution for me is to use a database editor to update the database. Some know how to use Windows commands to assign the same drive number as the old one or to clone the drive. That can work while respecting some conditions to avoid fooling the database with duplicate serial numbers or letters. For instance, you can't use the reformated original drive at the same time...
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Post by michelb on Jan 3, 2022 8:06:21 GMT
All organizer users must use the integrated backup solution, which solves the problem of migration of catalog together with library, but requires hours for a big library. The last two versions of the organizer offer a very fast backup of the catalog folder only; I choose to run it or not at the end of each editing session. My back up process is completely separate with a complete back-up annually (it takes hours, usually overnight unless the computer 'goes to sleep') follow by incremental backups - all through Organizer. As both of you seem to prefer using the Organizer’s backup/restore integrated solutions (as so many Organizer users do), I have a question. I believe your answers will benefit Organizer users. As you know, I have a small catalog. I mostly use the Organizer for "things" related to this forum. For my personal use, I depend on Lightroom. Since Adobe introduced automatic back-up/restore catalog structure in PSE 2021, I have played around with different frequency settings. However, I’m still not sure which one to use. Based on your experience, which variables should be taken into consideration when choosing a frequency setting?
Sepiana (and Buckskin) You might be interested by my last answer in the Adobe Elements forum:
My advice in your case is to use the new option regularly. After closing each session I am asked to backup or skip. That does not take long and always makes a catalog check. You need to do regular full backups from the organizer or your preferred backup/syncing solution. In your case a syncing to Dropbox or OneDrive would be a good idea. Backup solutions like Acronis or one of the many free solutions available. With organizer backups, maybe a weekly full backup (night job for bigger libraries) would be good. Together with external tools, I also recommend organizer backups every month or every quarter. At least you should do it to migrate to a new computer or drive.
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Post by michelb on Jan 1, 2022 20:32:33 GMT
Sorry, I cannot help you with the Organizer; however, I recommend free Synchredible to copy the files to the other drive. You tell Synchredible exactly what you wish to be duplicated/copied/mirrored/synchronized and it will do exactly that. www.ascompsoftware.com/en/products/show/product/synchredible/tab/descriptionI have found Synchredible to be very versatile, flexible, and adaptable in file backup. Although Synchredible will do the work in the background while you do other things, another very simple option is to simply drag/drop and walk away until it is done. Hi Buckskin and I wish you a happy new year! Since you mention Synchredible, I remembered your advice last year when I had to install my usual Synctoy and the installation failed for lack of support from Microsoft. I tried Synchredible, but found it more complicated and slower than my 2.1 Synctoy version. Microsoft seems to push to its SyncFolders alternative. I finally found which net.framework component to install and managed to install Synctoy. As I use the organizer intensively, I would not like nor trust a background backup solution. Synctoy is used after nearly all editing sessions to sync two external drives in a few minutes. Those drives allow me to sync to my other desktop 200 miles away... I also copy the catalog folder after the synching. The main external drive is operational as soon as I plug it to the other desktop. In case of need, it takes me two minutes to edit the catalog database of the second external drive to reflect the new computer/drive identification: I must use an sqlite database manager for that update which is not possible with the organizer directly. All organizer users must use the integrated backup solution, which solves the problem of migration of catalog together with library, but requires hours for a big library. The last two versions of the organizer offer a very fast backup of the catalog folder only; I choose to run it or not at the end of each editing session. For intensive users of the organizer, I would recommend to associate this feature with a syncing solution like Synctoy or Synchredible for regular backups; that does not protect absolutely if you can't restore on the original drive due to limitations in the 'reconnecting' feature of the organizer; so periodical full backups of the organizer must be made for more safety.
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